Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Do you agree that God is the Vine and we are his branches?

Yes, and as Jesus said, if you do not abide in him, you will be cut off from the vine. This proves that the "Once Saved, Always Saved" protestant teaching is false, otherwise you could not be cut off.



Some people promote a very attractive idea: All true Christians, regardless of how they live, have an absolute assurance of salvation, once they accept Jesus into their hearts as "their personal Lord and Savior." The problem is that this belief is contrary to the Bible %26amp; constant Christian teaching.



Recall this Scripture: "If we have died with him [in baptism; see Rom. 6:3-4] we shall also live with him; if we persevere we shall also reign with him" (2 Tim. 2:11-12). So, ff we do NOT persevere, we shall NOT reign with him. In other words, Christians can forfeit heaven. Jesus tells us, "He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31-46). Ergo, if you do not endure to the end, well........



The Bible makes it clear that Christians have a moral assurance of salvation (God will be true to his word and will grant salvation to those who have faith in Christ and are obedient to him [1 John 3:19-24]), but the Bible does NOT teach that Christians have a guarantee of heaven. There can be no absolute assurance of salvation. The Bible says, "See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness, otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22-23; Matt. 18:21-35, 1 Cor. 15:1-2, 2 Pet. 2:20-21).

Do you agree that God is the Vine and we are his branches?
yes god is at the centre of everything and from him we have grown.
Reply:Only if we listen to his calling, listen to our hearts (God will speak through it) and truly show that we earnestly love our brothers and sisters by abandoning our pious talk and religious preaching and simply doing good deeds for others without thought. Just simply doing good deeds because you care about other people.
Reply:Actually, I feel more like a grape on His vine.



I'm plump and juicy and one day I will be smashed.
Reply:No we are fruits,which grown on holly tree of god and the human grows on it's branches and fall with time and go from this world.
Reply:YES.



Without the branches, the vine would die because there wouldn't be anything to provide it with sustenance.



God is the same. Without human belief and followers, we have seen many Gods throughout human history disappear and become figures of myth. The same will happen to our current flavor of God.
Reply:Yes I do most certainly agree. The blessings already are.
Reply:I do not believe in the existence of a supernatural being responsible for my creation. Thus, while the analogy is well-crafted, I have to disagree with it.



In the end, however, the point of the analogy may have some merit. Seeing all people(s) as distinct branches from a common vine shows that, while we as individuals and cultures are distinct, there exists common links among us that may help us as we explore the core of the human condition. Regardless of one's religious views, it is essential to the survival of all of us that we learn to live together and appreciate that our differences should not divide us when clearly so many of our interests are in common.



So, if I have to answer the question literally, I would say no, I do not agree, but if I am allowed to try to extricate what I will call the moral of the story from the religious method, I think that there is some use in it.
Reply:No, He is the seed, the root, and the stalk. We are the vine and the branches, and we all share in the fruits, even those who do not believe. I believe that because of the fact that rain belongs to the just and the unjust.
Reply:Yup, it says so in John 15:5 =)
Reply:Hi Rena,

Yes, I believe in the Bible %26amp; even though Christ was speaking metaphorically, as He often did, here in John 15:5, I think we are to think of God as our strength..."the Vine" and there are many branches, some of which are weak %26amp; not fruitful %26amp; will be cut off. We are to be fruitful by doing good works %26amp; trying to live a faithful life %26amp; thus be rewarded in the afterlife.
Reply:God is the soil that nurtures us and we are the vine, the grapes being the products of our efforts
Reply:Jesus is the Vine...the source of our salvation...we are trying to spread the Good News...like a branches in a vineyard...
Reply:no



the goddess life force is every were and we are inside her



our life ...IS HER
Reply:Yes, I agree that it is true. I am glad to be a branch, of that vine, which is our Lord and Savior.
Reply:I think it's a nice image, but, no, I don't agree.
Reply:Not sure. I agree that my Boss is the devil and we are his pawns.
Reply:Clearly that not.
Reply:Yes , I do.



God is Good, All the time.



Bless You.
Reply:Yes.
Reply:Hello Rena, I don't want to be disappointing or anything, but I am on the fence about God, so I suggest he get to watering himself, I am not sure how much longer some of his branches are going to last. HAGD.
Reply:I believe you have the incorrect saying.

It's Jesus' saying which goes, ''I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.'



Hence, we are all vines and God is the gardener.



The saying goes on to say... 'He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.'



Hope this makes it clear.

And yes, I fully agree with it.
Reply:No God is the Root and we are His vine and branches ..Without a Root we wont grow spiritually.
Reply:I so agree
Reply:Yes, that's what my Bible tells me.
Reply:No!! I am not brainwashed!!
Reply:Since we are not vegetation, I'd say that God/gods don't exist.
Reply:No.





God is the square root of -1. We are real.





Read your bible, according to the OT it would be more accurate to say that god is the kid with a magnifying glass and we are the ants in his garden.
Reply:Why would I agree?
Reply:No I don't agree
Reply:Not really, no


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