When we consider Christ as the Tree of Life or as the Vine Tree as believers?

What kind of Tree do you associate with this picture that shows our union with the Lord.

Personally I consider a grape Vine.

The reason that I ask this was because we again see the Tree of Life appearing in the New Jerusalem and the interesting thing about this Tree is that it grows on either side of the River of Water of Life that proceeds out of the Throne of God.



Rev 22:2

"And on this side and that side of the river was the TREE of life, producing twelve fruits, yielding its fruit each month and the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations."



I know its a wierd kind of question, but I just wanted your take on it.

This is indeed an interesting tree, and its a TREE of life that grows in the New Jersualem, not many trees, but one tree that grows on EITHER side of the river.

Some of us may consider a Tree that is like an upright tree, not one spreading. What do you think?



Ty for taking the time to just quickly post on this question.

In Christ

sandy

When we consider Christ as the Tree of Life or as the Vine Tree as believers?
Wow...the beauty of this question...



I don't know enough. yet to picture this view ... however... I love how you picture the Tree of Life. I can't say whether or not it is a vine...but I do say is it must be beyond words...inexpressible abundance. Imagine the fruit it bears which symolizes the abundance of the fruits of the Spirit. The leaves are for the heling of the nations. For the continuing their health. There will be no sickness. Since diease is banished. As is death. The river and the tree are symbols of the life bestowed by the grace of God. There will be a suppy of continous fruit all heathful for believers to enjoy. Christ is the life. Just imagine...(now I'm beginning to picture this) eating a fuit... ( twelve varities)... that gives you conntinous joy, or peace or kindness.....rivers of crystal water flowing from Christ..full of the life of Christ. Comepletely clear... not as our waters... but Christ's ...completley clear like the finest crystal.

Not only does the tree of life substain us but even the leaves of the tree of life produce life healing....this is kind of life that is produced from it....

The leaves shall be for the healing of the nations. We are not to conclude that there were diseases to be healed but rather that in this city were the means which banished diease and death. We shall be completely healed and restored spiritually when we reside in this city. It is such a place that is full of perfect heath and perfect spiritual wholeness....These trees are fed by the pure waters of the river that comes from the throne of God, his favor and presence will give a continous supply (all good) to the inhabitants. The river will flow forevermore. Re creating love and power. The presence of God all day long being able to walk with him and talk with him,( unlike Adam who had to wait until God visited him)... receiving his blessings all day long...without the presence of Satan ! Imagine that, the devil will have no power there; he cannot draw us away from serving God, nor can he disturb us from our service to God. There will be freedom ( nothing evil will ever again be able to vex us) such as we have never known, honoring the Lord in his dominion! We shall be able to see the face of God. He will own the believers. Each will have Gods seal and name on their foreheads. We shall have perfect knowledge, wisdom and comfort. Joy as we have never known walking in the light of the Lord for ever and ever!

There will be no night, no affliction or dejection...we will be completely happy!!!!!!! Amen!



Just a few thoughts of what it will be like. God bless us all!
Reply:Yes, in the Gospel of John, Jesus is the Vine but I would not venture so much on the Book of Revelation because it is full of symbolisms. The early church understood the book in their time but the meanings are not yet disclosed fully in our lifetime. What I understand in my finite mind is that the Tree of Life was first pictured in the Book of Genesis and is now pictured in the Book of Revelation.
Reply:This is a very interesting question and i really do see where you are coming form with it. I live in a country with kinds of tree and vines..also trees with vines so i definitely think this is a very uniques way to look at it.



I think though that Henry is on to something!



God bless you richly
Reply:Do you know where the idea of a Tree of life comes from? And what significance it had in Semitic mythology?



If you want to understand the Book of Revelation more read "Breaking the Code- Understanding the Book of Revelation by Bruce Metzger.
Reply:I picture two trees one on either side of the river. If only one tree were planted, the roots could have gone under the river and come out on the other side to make another tree.



Any way I see it as a tree instead of a vine. If it were a vine, most of the fruit would be over the river where no one could get to it's fruit without getting wet.



It will be an awesome tree with 12 different kind of fruit on it.



This question, we will all be guessing about the answer. God said if (Paraphrasing) I have not given you the answer or the answer is not make clear "close the book." For it is not as important

as other things I need to tell you.



This is one thing we will have to wait and see in heaven.
Reply:Looking at Revelation 22:2 by itself it is hard to determine whether or not there are more trees than just one involved.



When we look at Ezekiel 47:1,7,and 12 and compare it with Revelation 22:2 we find a better picture and one that certainly would make us strongly consider more than one tree of life is involved.



Eze 47:1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house [stood toward] the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south [side] of the altar.



Eze 47:7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river [were] very many trees on the one side and on the other.



Eze 47:12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.



While researching this I came across a very useful tool for the study of Revelation which I have included as a link for those who enjoy studying Revelation. I hope it helps



http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c...
Reply:An Olive Tree is what I think of.



Here is a previous answer given in a similar question.



I think tradition has lead us to think of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil as an apple. There were two trees in the Garden that just mentioned and the Tree of Life as well. These trees were physical and did exist. Adam and Eve were taken from the garden so that they would not partake of the Tree of Life after they had eaten of the Tree of Knowledge. If they did they would live forever in their sins. This is why they were removed from the garden as well as the fullfillment of God's word for their transgression. Joseph Smith identified the tree of life with the olive tree, when he designated D%26amp;C 88 (see preface) as an "olive leaf . . . plucked from the Tree of Paradise, the Lord's message of peace to us." In Jewish lore, the tree of life is sometimes considered to be an olive tree, around which is entwined the vine, often believed to be the tree of knowledge. In the Dura-Europos synagogue, as Nibley points out (pp. 189-91), the tree of life is both a tree and a vine. The tree have also been used as symbols in the teaching and writing found throughout the scriptures. In Revelation 22:2, the tree of life is said to have twelve branches with "twelve manner of fruits," evidently representing the twelve tribes of Israel. Its leaves are "for the healing of the nations," reminding us of God's promise that the nations of the world would be blessed through Abraham's seed (Genesis 12:3; 22:18). When Moses went to the mountain of God, the Lord spoke to him out of a bush that burned with fire but was not consumed. (See Ex. 3:1–6.) The rod of Aaron similarly represented that God was with Moses and Aaron as it swallowed the rods-turned serpents of the Egyptian magicians. (See Ex. 7:10–12.) The Lord later caused Aaron's rod to blossom and bear almonds as a testimony that the Lord had selected the tribe of Levi to bear the priesthood. (See Num. 17:2–10.)



Messianic prophecies often speak of the Messiah In terms of a tree of life. For example, Isaiah prophesied that "there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots." (Isa. 11:1.) Then he described life much as it was in Eden, with the Messiah giving light and life to the earth.



Likewise, Zechariah saw a vision in which the Lord promised that Joshua the high priest would walk with the Branch (the Messiah). That vision was followed by another of two olive trees on either side of the menorah, or lampstand, of the Jewish tabernacle. (See Zech. 3–4.) As symbols of the tree of life, the olive trees are identified as the anointed ones of God. Even the menorah symbolized the tree of life, as one scholar suggests:



"In general it may be said that most scholars now seem to suppose that the menorah originated from a sacred tree, more specifically the Tree of Life of mythology—a primal image which can be glimpsed as early as the third millennium B.C. . . . and which played a decisive role in the tree cult of the ancient world."2



Jewish literature outside the Old Testament also contains tree of life references. The Books of Enoch, the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs, and 4 Ezra are the best-known of such books. When Enoch journeyed to the Seven Sacred Mountains, he saw a sacred tree similar to a date palm but more beautiful and grand than any he had ever beheld. (See 1 Enoch 29) His guide on the visionary journey, Michael, told Enoch that the fruit of the tree could not be eaten by mortals until they were purified after the judgment and that they would have to enter the temple of God to partake of it. (See 1 Enoch 25.)



In the Secrets of Enoch 9:1, the seer is shown the heavenly dwelling place of the righteous, where stands the tree of life. In the Testament of Levi 18:9–11, Enoch prophesies that in the last days the Lord "shall open the gates of paradise, and shall remove the threatening sword againstAdam. And he shall give to the saints to eat from the tree of life, and the spirit of holiness shall be on them."3



Likewise, 4 Ezra 8:52 promises to the righteous that in the last days "is opened Paradise, planted the Tree of life; the future Age prepared, plenteousness made ready."4 Jewish literature often portrays the tree of life as the seat of an oracle of God, a source of inspiration as well as of nourishment, a sacred sanctuary apart from worldly cares and dangers.



There are references to the tree of life in ancient Egypt culture, ancient Greek, ancient near eastern culture (Gilgamesh) and the Book of Mormon culture.



As for exactly what fruit it is......I haven't seen that declared for the tree of knowledge. It must taste pretty good though so an apple may not be to far off..Just imagine what the tree of life is like!

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