Monday, January 30, 2012

Should Jeremy Vine have helped person being attacked on the tube...?

And risked being sent to prison? When I tried to protect my wife and 7 and 2 year old son from being attacked from hooded 'gangsters' I was told not to take the law into my own hands and threatened with arrest for protecting my family, even though I had called the police on many occasions previously but they were unable to stop them.

If I cant protect my own family, why should I help a stranger?

Should Jeremy Vine have helped person being attacked on the tube...?
You are allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself, ie, meet force with force, if he hits you, hit him back, if he punches do the same,etc. But in these day's perhaps you would be justified in believing that he had a gun, so shooting them might be a justifiable option?
Reply:You are allowed to use proportionate force to protect yourself and your family.



Proportionate is difficult to evaluate but don't ever shy away from trouble if your family is at risk.
Reply:I was very critical of a colleague who said he had watched a young woman on the tube being sexually assaulted and had done nothing. I felt that he could at the very least have got out and run to the driver's compartment at the next station to alert him to what was happening, even if pulling the communication lever was too risky. I heard of a barrister on his way to court who did go to the assistance of a woman who was being robbed and was beaten up for his pains. He was forced to appear in court with a bloodstained shirt -- and the woman in question didn't even have the courtesy to thank him for what he had done. It is easy to be critical after the event (even of ourselves, as is the case with Jeremy Vine), but how much moral support would be given by fellow passengers or even the victim? Or the police, as you point out?
Reply:Well its a tricky one. you could end up stabbed or shot these days.

I think if someone is committing street robbery on you, you should just give them everything you have. Material things can be replaced. Lives can't.

Obviously , you will naturally defend and protect your family, but you really need to weigh up if it is worth getting stabbed over a purse or handbag full of valuables.



Too many have a go heroes have lost their lives to thugs.
Reply:More people need to stand up to the scum

that commit these crimes.

We also need a police force that can actually do

something rather than be concerned about everyones human rights!
Reply:Almost every day there are examples in the press of people defending themselves from unprovoked attack being threatened by the police with assault charges. It seems that thanks mainly to this PC government your caught between a rock and a hard place if you defend yourself.


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